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Real Hopes and "Vain" Hopes

By: The Baron

"Wherefore, whoso believeth in God might with surety hope for a better world, yea, even a place at the right hand of God, which hope cometh of faith..." (Ether 12:4)

"O ye that are bound down under a foolish and a vain hope, why do ye yoke yourselves with such foolish things?" -- Korihor (Alma 30:13)

Question: what's the difference between a real hope and a false (or 'vain') hope?

"Hope" represents future situations you are looking forward to, and working toward.  The benefits of 'hope' to an individual may involve having a greater sense of optimism and purpose, and possibly a greater ability to endure current struggles with an eye towards things being better in the future.

All of these present benefits of hope are true, though, whether the hope itself is true or false.  Presumably, then, the main difference between real and false hopes is that the real hope will, in fact, be realized in the future, and the false hope will not be.  In other words, the danger of 'false' hopes is that sometime in the future the 'hoper' will be sorely disappointed that what was originally hoped for never materialized--at which point that person may be worse off in terms of sadness and pessimism than if they had never held that hope in the first place.   One can arguably say that the personal feelings of peace and happiness that come from both kinds of hope are exactly the same, only that one will eventually lead to a future period of sadness and disappointment, while the other will not.

It's interesting, then, to hear people who don't believe in God say that belief in God is a 'false hope' because that implies that even though belief in God may provide some tangible comfort to us in this life, we're only setting ourselves up to be sorely disappointed in the future

Problem: if they are right, and there is no afterlife...then when would we have any kind of 'existence' to actually contemplate that disappointment?   If we maintain that hope provides some abstract emotional benefit, in this case is there really a difference between hoping (falsely) for the existence of God and hoping truthfully?   If that 'day of disappointment' never actually occurs, what has one lost in believing in God in the first place?

Let's imagine a parable of sorts.  (Like all parables, this is somewhat of an oversimplification and not 100% applicable to all situations, but still useful...)

There is a passenger jet plane cruising over the ocean.   Things proceed smoothly until the pilot and co-pilot become aware of a severe mechanical failure, such that in ten minutes time, the entire plane is going to explode and everyone inside will perish.  (They decide NOT to inform the passengers of this failure, since there isn't anything anyone can do about it, anyway.)

From the passengers' perspective, they have a 'hope' that they are going to reach their destination, and that their lives are going to continue on for many days and years following. Given the situation, we can classify that hope as 'false' since the truth of the matter is they only have ten more minutes to live before the plane explodes.

The pilots, on the other hand, have no such hope--they have a more accurate grasp of the situation and know what's coming...yet the fact that they do not have the false hope that the passengers do, doesn't make much of a difference to them in the end, does it?  The pilots are still in line to suffer the same fate as everyone else and their advanced knowledge provides no benefit--nor does the lack of knowledge by the other passengers provide much of a detriment.  (Other than the passengers are still calm, peaceful and happy for those ten minutes, while the pilots are probably very, very nervous...

Taking this a little further, suppose the pilots were wrong in their diagnosis--there was no mechanical failure and the plane was not actually going to explode.  Those ten minutes passed peacefully, and the plane continued onward to its destination, exactly as the passengers had hoped for when boarding.

In this situation, it's now the pilots' "hope" (or 'expectation') for the future that proved to be false (although it would be hard to argue in this case that they would feel disappointment at being false).   Despite the difference in hope, in the end the passengers and pilots all wound up in the same destination.  Other than the ten minutes of panic and fear, there really is no difference between the pilots and the passengers due to their difference in hopes.

Let's continue even further: suppose the pilots--AFTER making the flawed diagnosis--make several irreversible life decisions based on the assumption that they have only ten minutes to live.

This could be anything from radioing their supervisor to tell them exactly what they think of him, stripping off their clothes and running naked around the plane, you know, just for the heck of it, or perhaps throwing open the emergency exit and jumping into the ocean, preferring perhaps to die in the ocean via skydive versus passively waiting for an explosion. (In this case, as always happens in movies, let's assume the passengers just happen to include a retired pilot or military person who has the expertise to guide the plane to a safe landing, even without the pilots)

In this case, there is a great difference between the pilot and the passengers since one made significant decisions based on his 'knowledge' that life was not going to continue beyond point X, while the others did not.

In all three cases, regardless of whose hope was real or false, the passengers' eventual circumstance ended up being the same or better than the pilots' every time.  Compare this to believing in an afterlife which turns out to be false--what difference does that make in the end?  (As compared to falsely *not* believing in an afterlife, which can make a difference...)

Now, it would be cynical to say the lesson is: believe in God whether you believe in God or not...just to be safe.  It does present the question, though, of what exactly the harm in 'religion' in general is?  Atheists have a higher burden of proof that belief in religion--even if false--actually harms the believer, versus them being either in the same or better position than the non-believer in the end, anyway...

Print | posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:14 AM | Filed Under [ The Baron General Scripture Theology ]

Comments:

#1: Dave Parker

The atheists who see our "false hopes" being dashed probably expect that we'll find disappointment in this life when either: a) science proves once and for all (this is their false hope) that God doesn't exist; or b) the great events we are expecting never happen. Both flawed ideas, of course.
6/19/2008 9:04 AM

#2: austin s

I think atheists generally believe that a belief in God has a few negative consequences. For one, they think it acts as an opiate, a pie-in-the-sky effect--don't worry about hardships or problems so much, either God will fix them for you or else you'll be rewarded for enduring them in the hereafter, there's no need to actually try to improve your situation. The individual is disempowered by a belief in God (according to them). Second, the pain and disillusionment that perhaps many of them have felt as they lost faith in God can be avoided if you never believe in God. Finally, there is the argument that an irrational belief in a concept with no objectively verifiable proof is troubling in that it shows a lack of critical thinking. If you're willing to accept one idea without sufficient evidence, will that lead to other superstitions and false beliefs which could be more directly harmful? They might point to Jehovah's Witnesses refusal to accept blood transfusions here, or maybe a Mormon performing a priesthood blessing before rushing someone to the hospital. In short, I think the atheists argue that there *are* negative effects in the here and now, not just a disappointment when we die and are met only with blackness.

Of course, there are compelling responses to these arguments that we don't need to get into here, but I can somewhat see where atheists are coming from. An empowering, individualistic worldview is a good thing (as long as kept within limits, of course); avoiding pain is natural; and critical thinking is certainly important. If it was all false, I would want to know. I would want to call family and friends at home and tell them I loved them if I was going to die in a plane crash in 10 minutes. Even if the truth were to hurt, I would like to think that it's better to accept what's really going on and deal with it than cling to something that isn't true. That being said, I'm very glad I have a testimony of God and the Atonement and revelation etc.!
6/19/2008 9:31 AM

#3: Eric Nielson

what exactly the harm in 'religion' in general is?

I think the claim would be that believers are not being allowed to be as happy as they could be. You know, all those unnecessary commandments that bind us down to the yoke of bondage and such. So I do not think it is the end that they are taking about, but the journey. Maybe the passengers in the plane could have one last quicky fling before they died for example. Thus needlessly missiong out on the temporary pleasures of life.
6/19/2008 9:40 AM

#4: The Baron

Good questions... (Yes, the obvious flaw in the plane parable is the 'call my family on my cell phone' reason to know what your fate is, but that doesn't have a real-world analogy, so we'll have to ignore it...)

One of the key concepts, then, is whether the commandments of God are meant to cause unhappiness in this life which will be made up by overwhelming happiness in the next, or if they are supposed to bring happiness *now*, not oppression and restrictions. Obviously, which one depends on who you ask. Clearly from the LDS perspective, the commandments are designed to bring peace and happiness now, not later. The purpose behind not having 'quicky flings', for example, is that it in theory is not conducive to a peaceful happy life now, not just that we'll be punished for it later.

Does a belief in God cause one to become complacent and NOT try to improve one's life, nor the lives of others, rather than just the opposite? I think the burden of proof is on the atheists here, too: certainly one can come up with enough anecdotal evidence for the opposite to contradict any anecdotal evidence in favor of it.
6/19/2008 10:05 AM

#5: austin s

Yeah, I realized the 'call your family on the phone' was going past the reasonable bounds on the parable (they all break down at some point, of course), but it kind of illustrates the point I was making.

I think that true religion does goad us to improve our lives, though "religion" was indeed used during American slavery to try to keep the slaves complacent. For most people, though, I believe it is a catalyst for change for the better.

I really do like the question, though, of the difference between a real hope and a fake one. Other than the atheist angle, how does this question affect us as believers? How important is our hope that the Book of Mormon is historical, not divinely inspired fiction? How about our hope that the LDS church is the only organization on the earth with the authority to administer necessary ordinances in God's name? If these hopes turned out to be false (and I don't think they will), what difference would that make? Or what to make of the hope that many (most?) LDS church members had in Joseph Smith's lifetime that they would live to see the second coming? How can we determine when a hope is real or vain, and when does it matter?

I guess my answer to that question is from the first scripture you cited (one of my favorites!): "which hope cometh of faith." Hope that stems from faith is the surest and most important. If it anchors our souls to Christ, then it's important.

Thanks for this post!
6/19/2008 11:31 AM

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