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The Plight of LDS Actors

By: The Baron

There’s no question:  Church members like seeing other Church members become famous.

Having famous Church members in the news in a variety of professional fields--business, sports, singing and dancing—provides a certain comfort to Latter-Day Saints who can see fellow Saints be successful on a national stage, even beyond the simple “good PR for the Church” standpoint.

If I (or one of my kids) wants to be a successful entrepreneur (or musician, or athlete, or writer) it’s nice to be able to point to some famous person and say, “See, he or she is a faithful Church member while also being successful at career X”.  Having famous and/or successful Mormons sends the message outwardly that Church members are ‘normal’ and play regular roles in regular society—we’re not all cooped up in armed compounds in southern Utah or Texas or something--but also sends the message inwardly that secular success and spiritual success can mix: that faithful Saints don’t necessarily have to choose one or the other.

Of course, in order for this to really count, those famous Mormons have to be faithful and active also.  Just being a member doesn’t mean much:  if those famous Mormons are not currently active and practicing—even if the reasons for not being active have nothing to do with their chosen profession--they don’t really work as ‘examples’ for other Saints who might want to believe that they can be successful in their career without being forced to compromise their beliefs somewhere along the line.

In most professions, one can find any number of active and inactive Church members.  Acting, however, seems to be an outlier.

There are a few well-known actors whose names are on the records of the Church, but virtually all of them are not currently practicing.  That may be partially a coincidence as some of them—such as “Enchanted” actress Amy Adams—simply grew up in an inactive LDS family, and were never active themselves in adulthood even before becoming involved with acting.

Yet, that doesn’t cover every LDS actor and actress, whose ranks include one returned missionary who’s currently being seen in a $300 million movie this summer.    Is succeeding in the modern day movie/TV industry AND being a faithful Latter-Day Saint inherently more difficult than other professions?  Do LDS actors have to choose, to some extent, between succeeding in acting and being active in the Church?  Without some prominent counter-examples, a lot of circumstantial evidence points to ‘yes’.

This issue has been raised by the recent developments regarding LDS film alum Kirby Heyborne.  Kirby has starred in, among other films, “The Singles Ward”, its sequel, “The RM”, “The Best Two Years”, and “Saints and Soldiers”.   Kirby has, more or less, been the face of LDS cinema from the beginning, although the state of LDS cinema being what it is, it’s perfectly reasonable that one can’t easily make a living off of it, and Kirby has been living in California making a go of acting in non-Church stuff as well.

What kind of ‘non-Church stuff’ that included came to the fore in June when Kirby appeared in a Miller Lite commercial, causing no small amount of controversy back in Utah.  Just recently, the DearElder.com website, which has featured billboards with Kirby’s picture for years along I-15 in Utah, has announced that they are searching for a new likeness to be the spokesperson.

Coincidence?   While the official statement makes note of the need to “update our current advertising and billboards” which were all four years old, the remainder of the statement makes pretty clear between the lines what the catalyst for the change was:  “Going forward, we have made a deliberate decision to select advertising that is consistent with our message of missionary support, service and values…”

Kirby’s response: "I'm a temple-worthy member that loves his wife and kids, and fulfills his calling at church and does his home teaching. And yet I'm going to play characters that might have moral dilemmas, or do a commercial -- or whatever it is -- because my job is the way that I provide for my family,"

"If I could do [Church films] for the rest of my life, and make enough money to support my family, I would do that in a heartbeat.  But in reality, there's no way."

That’s a very reasonable response…and that’s actually the problem.  In fact, that may have been the absolute worst thing Kirby could have said.

So, basically, after all the work he’s put into pursuing an acting career, he still found himself stuck doing...beer commercials?  That's the only work he could find for himself to support his family in the end?  And that’s what aspiring LDS actors have to look forward to, when trying to make it in modern day Hollywood?

Even if Kirby had said something along the lines of, “I had other opportunities for work…but I decided to do a beer commercial deliberately because I’m a BAD MORMON!” that may have actually been better in the long run, because that would at least have presented some hope to future actors that they would still have some choice in the matter.  As it is, what does the future generation of LDS actors have to look forward to?  “If Kirby Heyborne is forced to sell beer on TV to feed his family, what hope is there for me?”

Now, being a successful actor (or musician, or writer, or artist) is inherently a difficult endeavor, and (inside or outside the Church) the failures will far outnumber the successes.  However, the question still remains whether the acting industry is just inherently incompatible with a faithful LDS lifestyle.  Kirby Heyborne may have wanted to be the exception to that rule when he left Utah, but I wonder if he’s ended up providing ample proof of it, instead...

Print | posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:43 PM | Filed Under [ The Baron General Mormon Culture Family ]

Comments:

#1: Starfoxy

I think you're being needlessly hard on him. I don't believe that appearing in a beer commercial is much different than being any one of the middle men who deals with beer before it it paid for and consumed; including working as a cashier at the grocery store- something no right thinking person could reasonably condemn a mormon for doing.

Now if he made a habit of appearing in beer commercials, or signed on as a spokesman with Coors then that might be comparable to working at, say, a liquor store, something that is definitely dodgy. As it is, I would say what he is doing is the actor's equivalent of ringing up a six pack.
7/31/2008 5:59 PM

#2: Bryan

I'm practicing a little self-plagiarism here, so bear with me.

The article you referenced also mentioned that one of the biggest reasons Kirby did the Miller Lite commercial was because of the ongoing writer's strike. Since beer commercials are presumably not written by WGA members, that was probably the only work a struggling actor with a wife and kids could find in Hollywood.

Your post does touch on a larger question, though. Is it wrong for a Mormon to pretend to be anything contrary to the high standards of the Church, even if it’s just “acting”?

We’ve seen plenty of bad guys in Church-produced films, yet we intuit nothing about the actors’ personal righteousness based on their characters’ behavior. Even Heyborne’s character in “Saints and Soldiers” smoked a cigarette on occasion (it wasn’t real, of course), yet it didn’t cause nearly the same reaction as the beer commercial.

The morality at play here is fairly murky. Let’s extend Kirby’s argument (as quoted above) to a more extreme case. Would he feel as comfortable taking on an acting job that required simulated intimacy with another character? If not, is that because immorality is “evil” and consuming alcohol is simply one of those peculiar no-nos that only Mormons and Muslims worry about?

Maybe the difference is in the portrayal of evil. In Church films, there’s always an obvious distinction between the good guys and the bad guys. The bad guys are almost always recognizable on sight, with their scraggly beards, copious drinking and shouting, and redneck Southern accents. (OK, I’m exaggerating a little, but you get the point. With the exception of Jesus and the original twelve apostles, and Church history figures like Brigham Young, John Taylor, Wilford Woodruff, and Joseph F. Smith, there seems to be an unofficial rule that No Good Character Wears a Beard. Also, the more evil the character, the bigger and scragglier the beard. See “The Work and the Glory” as an example.) I have yet to see an LDS-themed movie, outside of Richard Dutcher’s oeuvre, where enemies masquerade as good people for a time.

So maybe the problem is that by appearing in the commercial, which (as all beer commercials do) romanticizes drinking alcohol by placing it in a fun social context, Heyborne is contributing to the downfall of humanity by making bad look good. If that’s the case, it would seem to put an unfair and artificial restriction on the kinds of roles a temple-worthy LDS actor can accept. It would certainly rule out appearing in any of Shakespeare’s plays, for example. And no LDS actor would think of turning down the roles of Mr. or Mrs. Macbeth just because they got a little blood on their hands.

What does it mean to “stand as witnesses of God at all times and in all things, and in all places,” according to the Young Womens’ theme? Can one have the guidance of the Spirit while engaging in wrong behavior, even if you’re just pretending to do so - particularly in cases where the bad guy wins, or at least doesn’t receive his just comeuppance by the end?

What makes appearing in a beer commercial “wrong” (even if the character never take a drink or even opens the bottle) and smoking a cigarette in a WWII film “right”? Or are they both wrong, or both right? Is the beer commercial wrong because the characters are never named, thus giving the appearance of reality (as in, that’s really Kirby Heyborne searching for the bottle)?

Of course, the world isn’t going to come to an end because of one beer commercial. And what Heyborne does with his life is his own business. But in terms of using the foregoing examples to puzzle out a moral standard or rule, there appear to be no clear answers.
7/31/2008 7:08 PM

#3: Nephi

Good points, but how about we ask this:

Is being in a beer commercial worse than kissing 'acting' someone that is not your spouse for the sake of film?

Someone who acts may say "it is just the character", much like a actor who plays James Bond will say the same with the nearly naked girls he sleeps with in such movies. Yet most Mormons and Christians alike watch such films (regarding kissing) and do not think about it for a second.

I enjoy 'acting' but I wouldn't call myself a actor by any means. I always wanted to be a director, and with those desires the question once came up in my mind. Would I make other actors kiss for the sake of acting? I am married and I have only kissed one person besides my parents and that is my wife. I treasure that, and made sure of it even though she was not the first girl I ever met.

I have worked at a gas station selling beer and cigarettes. I now work at a video rental store that rents R rated movies. Steve Young played football on Sundays. I think Kirby could have prayed, and had more faith to find other work, but I could also find another jobs and Steve Young could have let go of his dream of the NFL. I think that would be a good move since acting, football...and working at a rental store really do not matter in the end, but temple recommends are still carried (I being apart of the proof) so obviously the church does not care to make a great deal out of things that are indeed out of our control to a degree.
7/31/2008 7:12 PM

#4: Glass House Owner...

Hmmmm, I don't see the dilemma. I understand why some church members get upset, but it seems to be quite myopic, and perhaps a bit like the Saduccees and Pharisees.

Many of us do certain things for our jobs which might cause other church goers to blush. I am a prosecutor and have had to deal with plenty of pedophiles and those who distribute/manufacture/possess Child p0rn. As a result, I have to look at this stuff. Just last week I had to meet with an informant, and the only place he felt safe to meet was his nudie bar. So, that's where the investigator and I went.

Is what this guy has to do any different from a doctor who, because of his profession, is required to work on Sundays?

his lack of employment may be a result of his not being a very good actor...just a thought.
7/31/2008 7:13 PM

#5: The Baron

I think there's a key distinction between movies and commercials. One can be an "immoral" character in a movie, and it's not that big a deal. I recall, in fact, that Kirby's character in "Saints and Soldiers" smoked, and no one really cared.

But "Saints & Soldiers" wasn't created to encourage people to smoke. A Miller Lite commercial is specifically designed to encourage people to drink Miller Lite...in real life. Playing a villain in a movie isn't a problem, because everyone knows movies are fake. Commercials are not 'fake' in the same sense, though, since they are specifically designed to influence reality. I do think appearing in a beer commercial is more problematic than appearing to drink beer in a movie--its fundamental purpose is different.

This wasn't supposed to be a 'Kirby-bashing' post--only suggesting that if that is genuinely the only work he could find to support his family, what does that suggest about the future of his acting career, and as an extension, what that might imply about other prospective LDS actors?
7/31/2008 8:28 PM

#6: Stady Canton

I have to admit seeing Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's Coors commercial back in the day felt wrong, frankly. Watching his giant image tower over the Rocky Mountains surrounding the cool brews in Colorado left me thinking, "Huh?". It seemed either an insincere endorsement or a lapse in standards. Kareem's fame was definitely why he was picked for the commercial though--you can't say that about Kirby's.

Professional basketball player Kareem Abdul-Jabbas has been criticized by fellow Muslims for doing Coors beer commercials. In 1971 the Los Angeles Lakers Hall of Famer converted to Islam, a religion that forbids the use of alcohol. Although Abdul-Jabbar said he was careful not to be shown actually holding a beer and thought the commercial "was tastefully done," the Islamic Society of North America and the Colorado Mulsim Society disapproved. Throughout his career, Abdul-Jabbar and his teammates have taken part in promotions of various alcoholic beverages. "Why now, at this point, do I get this static?" he asked the Los Angeles Times. (Rocky Mountain News, Jan. 24, 1997)


Another angle, we follow Christopher Gorham's career because we liked him in "The Other Side of Heaven". Non-LDS actors in LDS films can make impressions too, enough so that his character drinking on Jake 2.0 made me do a double-take.
8/1/2008 1:04 AM

#7: Mormon Soprano

Ok, back to your original post topic - (because I don't think the focus was meant to become yet another Kirby diatribe) I agree that it is extremely challenging to keep the LDS standards when we are involved in any aspect of the entertainment business. I am speaking from experience, as well as from observation. Obviously it can be done (the Osmond Family is a tremendous example) but it is rare, and very difficult. Compromises are inevitable, not to mention the toll the lifestyle, travel and lengthy absences take upon a marriage and family. The choices involved are hard. For some, the end choice becomes to give up the dream and change career direction completely. For others, they hold to their dream, walking the fine line the best that they can. Sadly, more often than not they come under merciless fire from other members of the church no matter what they do. Being in the spotlight is ruthless enough, without feeling rejection from the people who should be loving you most. Less we forget, all of us make errors in judgment daily - but the difference is that what we do and say is not posted somewhere on the myopic internet 2 seconds afterwards. And then, when we make the huge effort to repent and change and move forward, we don't have to have millions of people continually replaying our mistakes over and over again for years to come on YouTube.

Just yesterday I read a recent interview with actress Katherine Heigl (Grey's Anatomy, 27 Dresses, etc). After her little brother died at age 7, her parents came in contact with the church and found all of the answers they were desperately looking for. Her parents have remained active. However, I thought that her comments regarding her own membership were really interesting:


"[I'm not a] strong, practicing Mormon. I'm not as disciplined about it as I once was, but I hope to find my way back as I get older and a little less selfish. I'm ashamed to say that I've just got very lazy about it. I satisfy my vices instead of fighting them. If I start going back to church, I'd have to stop the smoking and drinking, and I wouldn't be able to curse any more."


What struck me most about this comment is her underlying desire deep down to come back, but her belief that if she cannot make herself absolutely perfect she is not worthy to have fellowship with the Saints. The real question I think we should be asking ourselves is - "Am I making it easier or harder for my LDS brothers and sisters to walk through the door on Sunday and feel welcome and valuable?" (famous and non-famous) Whether we are in or out, or making great choices or less-great choices, the bottom line is that the Savior never hangs a sign on his heart that states "Perfect People Only". So why do we?
8/1/2008 11:02 AM

#8: MoJo

Interesting. We're having the same discussion/issue about LDS fiction in the writing community amongst LDS (heaven forbid I say "LDS writers" because that comes with way too much baggage).
8/1/2008 5:45 PM

#9: LDS Anarchist

This is a timely post. Just a couple of days ago I was informed of a role that fits my profile, but it was a simulated sex scene (with clothes on). Of course, it was a SAG role (Screen Actors' Guild), so it meant some pretty darn good money, and when I told my wife about it, she (jokingly) said, "Take it!" But of course, I turned it down. The whole family wants to see me famous and all, but I still have to feel comfortable with the parts I play.

It is also interesting that you mention Amy Adams. I was in two scenes with her in the movie Charlie Wilson's War (one of which also had Ned Beatty and Tom Hanks) but I didn't know at the time that she was Mormon, like me. I thought I was the only Mormon on the set and had never heard of her before that shoot, though I was very impressed with her acting ability. It was only later, when I looked her up online that I discovered her religion. I kick myself to this day for not making it known that I was LDS. It might have made for interesting conversations if she were to also have revealed her LDS background. Oh, well...!
8/2/2008 3:56 AM

#10: Eric Nielson

Anarchist:

You are an actor? Wow.
8/4/2008 12:55 PM

#11: [ anon ]

@ Glass House Owner, et. al....

I would be VERY careful in your line of work... especially with regard to viewing any form of pornography. "I have to look at this stuff" is a very dangerous position to be in. The Brethren have warned us time and time again about the dangers of pornography—additionally the anecdotal evidence of its horrific power is overwhelming. Scientific evidence is also now catching up.

What if your post were to read something like this...

"I am an undercover DEA agent and have had to deal with plenty of drug users, dealers, cartels and those who distribute/manufacture/possess illegal drugs, etc.. As a result, I have to use this stuff. Just last week I had to meet with an informant, and the only place he felt safe was to meet in a drug house.. and have all of us shoot heroin together. So, that's where the investigator and I went, and we did it."

Can you even imagine!!? This scenario seems ridiculous to begin to justify... yet you 100% justify viewing child pornography and live-action pornography in a bar as just "part of the job." Can you honestly say you would justify snorting cocaine or smoking crack--if they were part of your job description. I'm willing to guess that you'd find another line of work.

Pornography, in all its forms is just as, or even more powerful a 'drug' as cocaine, heroin, etc. It destroys lives just as easily. It's grasp is even more difficult to break free from. The Brethren have even spoken of the body's ability to vomit or otherwise rid itself of poisons, yet the mind has no such reflex. What goes in can never be removed... and I would say that participating in pornography of ANY kind can never be justified.

Your comparison to a doctor (or any other profession) having to work on Sunday is terribly flawed. The major difference is that working on Sunday is not inherently sinful. Sexual sin of any kind.. perversions of any kind... are sins so gross and so serious they are second only to the shedding of innocent blood. Pornography of any kind falls into this category, and begins to grip the viewer/user/partaker so quickly, and with such force, it can literally destroy souls within a very short time.

I'm not a prosecutor, but I do know a few. I also know some expert witnesses with regard to pornography-related cases. Each of these people have made personal vows that they will NEVER even glance at the evidence in these cases... for fear of themselves being trapped by it. One can "imagine" sufficiently to make 'just' and 'right' decisions, without having to subject themselves to the "facts" just "to be sure" it's truly evil.

Be EXTREMELY careful!

I also agree with the comments about the beer commercial being specifically produced to 'promote' the use of beer... unlike playing a character in a movie who at one point happens to also smoke... the movie not being about the virtues of smoking.

However, this is a VERY slippery slope. Is smoking wrong? Is pretending to smoke wrong? Is kissing someone other than your spouse wrong, even if it's also for pretend? Is using foul language wrong, even it's for a 'role?' Is engaging in sexual (of any kind) behavior wrong, even if a part calls for it? Perhaps putting a fake cigarette in your mouth and pretending to smoke is not so bad... but when is the line drawn? When is it crossed? Kissing someone other than your spouse is actually kissing. Swearing is actually swearing. Nudity is actually nudity, and on and on and on.

I personally believe that if we're prayerful, the Lord will lead us to professions or jobs that will enable us to be good examples for those we come in contact with, and that He will never lead us into situations where we must let go of the Iron Rod in order to go 'over there' just a little bit so we can help bring people over to the rod... or because "it's how I provide for my family." It NEVER works that way.

The saddest part about Heyborne's choice to star in the beer commercial, is that he has placed himself in a position to never be asked by the Church to play a role in an official Church production. That one decision to star in a beer commercial would prove embarrassing to the Church, should he ever have part in an official release... so he never will. It's always sad to me to see people with great talents that could otherwise help build the Kingdom at an increased rate, providing more joy for all of us along the way... to see it squandered for a 'mess of pottage.'

"I have to pay the bills, so I'll do this or that" is no different than "I'll sell you my birthright for a bowl of mush, because I'm hungry now." (Gen. 25:29-34 if you're curious)

Michelangelo was also a skilled and talented artist. Nearly none of his works could ever be displayed in a Temple or even a Church building.

If we're earnestly striving to be humble followers of Jesus Christ... then we should "sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me." (Matt. 19:21)

What are we holding on to!?

The Lord will provide. We do NOT have to compromise. The choice is our own.

8/24/2008 11:25 PM

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